결혼 30년차, 원조 테토남 차인표의 사랑방법

결혼 30년차, 원조 테토남 차인표의 사랑방법

Actress Shin Ae-ra said her first impression of Cha In-pyo wasn’t that great. (Slightly hurt)
Same here. (Disappointed)
My ideal type wasn’t my wife either. Hello. – Oh! Hello.
Hello. Hello. Nice to meet you! I’ve been wanting to see you. Welcome to the Weracle Taxi. Great to meet you. Let’s shake hands. It’s truly an honor. I finally get to meet someone I’ve always looked up to. Honestly, I’m super nervous right now. Why are you nervous? I’ve never been this nervous before… I don’t think I’ve ever been this shaky. We have a lot of mutual acquaintances, right? But this is our first time actually meeting. Right? – Right!
Right? Actually, when you got married, Park We, I was at the wedding venue. Whoa, really? I didn’t go in—I just dropped my wife off. If I had known, I would’ve gone in. But I didn’t know. And I had no way to contact you. (Joking)
Well, my wife went though. No, I mean… She had your contact, that’s probably why she went. Yeah, we didn’t know each other back then. But when I looked around that day, almost everyone I knew was at your wedding. No way, really?? – Yeah, everyone except me.
No way, really?? Man, that’s not how it was supposed to go… – You’re doing well though, right?
Man, that’s not how it was supposed to go… Yeah, I’m doing well. (Taxi takes off!)
Then let’s go. A true legend of legends in Korea. The original fit actor of Korea, The original Mr. Testosterone!! Known as the ultimate loving husband! And now, also active as a novelist, actor and writer, we’ve got Cha In-pyo with us today. Aren’t you going to ask where I’m headed? Yes, I was just about to. Where can I take you? I have a meeting at a film company. I’d appreciate it if you could drop me off there. I’ll take you wherever you need to go. Oh, by the way, is it okay if I call you “hyung”? – How old are you?
Oh, by the way, is it okay if I call you “hyung”? I was born in ’87. There’s a 20-year gap between us—up or down 20 years, that’s definitely a hyung-dongsaeng thing. Then, if it’s okay with you, you can just speak casually with me. Ah, maybe just give me a little more time… Alright, alright. My mom called me three times just to say she’s a fan of you, In-pyo hyung. Thank you so much. Please send her my regards. Hello, ma’am! Much love to you. This is actually my second time being invited to appear on YouTube. The first was on . I did one appearance there. And this is my second time. was all about working out. We filmed on the side of a sports field. Later when I watched it, my face looked kinda squid-like… And my clothes too— I was so cold, I just threw layers on. Looked like I was wearing a North Korean military uniform or something. But this time, there are multiple cameras around, so I’m kind of nervous too. Oh really? Don’t be nervous! Oh, and by the way, I’m really close with Taeyoon hyung— Shim Taeyoon hyung and I are good friends. Same! I’m close with Taeyoon too. So I’ve heard a ton about you from him. He once said, “If Jesus didn’t exist in this world, I’d worship Cha In-pyo instead.” What kind of nonsense is that? He’s making me sound like a cult leader. How have you been lately? Recently, a Christian movie called came out—it’s dubbed, and I think it’s doing pretty well at the box office. What role did you play? – I played Pontius Pilate, from the Bible.
What role did you play? The one who sentenced Jesus to death. I played the guy who sentenced Jesus to death. It’s a Christian-themed project, and I felt it was meaningful just to be part of a great work, even in a small role. That’s why I agreed to do it. I did a voice role. I was invited to the premiere and saw . It was actually my first time seeing the story of Jesus in animated form. It felt really fresh and new. And through the movie, you really get a sense of the kind of life Jesus lived—in a fun way. Plus the animation format brings its own unique camera angles and effects that spark imagination, stuff you can’t usually get from text or live-action films. There are so many fascinating moments in it. I hope people take the chance to watch it if they can. Is that a mosquito? PD / Got it! Caught it with his bare hands! Wow..!!! Our PD just caught
the mosquito with his fingers..!! Alright then! Let me give a quick intro about Cha In-pyo hyung. Back in 1993, he joined MBC as a public recruitment actor—and he ranked 1st! The manliest of men, I heard he had the highest score. But I also heard you failed the KBS and SBS auditions? In that same year, 1993, all three major networks had open auditions back to back. And I secretly thought to myself, “What if I pass all three? Which one should I pick?”
(getting ahead of himself) But I got cut from SBS at the document stage, then dropped by KBS in the second round, and finally made it through with MBC. Later I found out why I got in. After I got to know the PDs better, they told me the story. “Hey, you know why you made it?” “The judges were like, ‘We already have so many great actors who can act,’”
우리 연기 잘하는 연기자들
되게 많으니까” “So this time, let’s pick someone different!”
새로운 사람 뽑아 보자!” Like someone who studied abroad and speaks a foreign language, or someone with an athletic build from working out a lot, or someone with experience in another field… They were thinking way outside the usual box of what you’d expect in an acting audition. Totally different mindset. Wow, but still, what amazing timing. Yeah, it really was. Honestly, in life, things almost never go the way we plan them. It’s always the unexpected factors and twists that shape things. You just never know until you lift the lid. You won’t know what’s inside. But whether you lift that lid or not, is totally up to you. And then, right after stepping into acting, in less than a year, he landed that legendary drama— . He played the lead role in that series, and shot straight to stardom. That scene where you played the saxophone in the jazz club— I was in elementary school back then, and even I still remember it. But I heard you were holding the saxophone upside down? You had it flipped and played it backwards. Back then they’d just say “he rides a motorcycle and plays sax,” and call you an actor. But with just a bit of practice, could you actually do it well? Of course not. So they used stand-ins. How were the ratings back then? There were only three channels at the time. So if it did well, it would hit like 40–50% ratings. It was a completely different world compared to now. So suddenly, people recognized you just walking down the street, right? Yeah, exactly. How did that feel? You’ve seen the movie , right? Oh yeah, I love that movie. Like the main character doesn’t know, but everyone else is in on a different reality. Exactly—that was me. I got on a bus after the drama ended, and everyone on that bus was staring at me. In that moment, my whole world just flipped. From then on, it was a really strange experience. But personally, it was a time of real confusion for me. Becoming a star overnight— I didn’t have the time or preparation to adjust to that. I’ve honestly always been curious about this— people often say you were born with a silver spoon. Is that true? That story’s been a bit twisted and exaggerated in a lot of ways. My father ran a small business. But my parents ended up separating, and my dad left the house. So us three sons lived with our mom from then on. Still, my dad gave us an allowance and covered our school expenses. But financially, and socially, we naturally felt some pressure. So to break free from that, my mom said, “Why don’t we move to the U.S. and start over?” Ah, so that’s how you ended up going. – Yeah, that’s how it happened.
Ah, so that’s how you ended up going. I moved there when I was 20, had to get part-time jobs and take care of myself. And I didn’t even speak English at the time, so I started at a local community college, you know, a two-year school. Studied during the day, worked at night. After about two years, I got good grades and transferred to a state university, and graduated with a degree in economics. So from there, was there a specific reason you decided to come back to Korea? What made you decide to return to Korea? – After graduating, I got a job in New York.
What made you decide to return to Korea? Worked in sales for a year, but it really didn’t suit me at all. And at the time, I was going through some personal hardships too. So partly by choice, partly not, I quit my job and suddenly flew back to Korea. Spent some time unemployed, and then eventually became an actor—just like I mentioned earlier. You never know how life turns out. Even when you hit rock bottom… Then something else happens, and you just keep going, living through it all without giving up. During your acting days, you met your now-wife, actress Shin Ae-ra, right? How did you two meet? While filming the drama , we actually fell in love for real. It was a 16-episode series, and I think we started falling for each other around episode 8. (Excited)
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh! When you’re filming a drama, they give you the shooting schedule for the next day, the night before. At some point, I stopped looking at my own schedule, and started checking when Shin Ae-ra’s scenes were scheduled. That’s what I found myself doing. Because I wanted to see her. Do you think she picked up on that? Yeah, I think she did, a little. It was mutual. I heard Shin Ae-ra said her first impression of you wasn’t great. (Slightly hurt)
Same here. (Disappointed)
My ideal type wasn’t my wife either. (Joking)
She was a huge star back then. So naturally, I had some preconceived notions— that she’d be really intense. But once I started talking to her, she wasn’t like that at all. So who confessed first? It kinda just happened at the same time. Are you really that curious? Yes! – Oh, really?
Yes! I always wondered—do young people these days even care about how things went down decades ago? How about you and your wife, Mr. We? Who made the first move? Honestly, it felt similar— I thought I was the only one who fell at first sight, but later I found out it was mutual. It’s really something, isn’t it? “It’s like magic!” “Seriously.” “How can two complete strangers
두 사람이 동시에” start liking each other at the exact same time?”
하게 되는지” So how long did it take before you got married? About 10 months? And then I went to the army. While I was serving, I got married during my first leave as a private. Getting married while in the military is pretty wild too. But if I didn’t do it then, we would’ve had to wait 2 more years. And who knows what could happen during that time. There’s a word I like—“threshold.” It’s one of my favorite concepts. What it means is, “to cross the threshold.” At some point in life, you just have to step over it. Once you cross that threshold, it becomes a part of your values, your new default setting, like a reset moment. And not just in love— it’s the same when you’re learning something new, or switching careers, or whatever it may be. Personally, I had a lot of romantic ideas about marriage. And you’re definitely a senior when it comes to marriage! So what’s married life like? I think it’s all about teamwork. Where one is lacking, the other steps in to support. It’s about constantly talking, compromising, caring for each other as you move forward together. That kind of relationship feels healthy to me. But if one person is always giving in, constantly sacrificing—that kind of imbalance might lead to burnout later on. This was in a recent video… It was that toothbrushing scene on , and the look in your eyes— I thought, “How is that the gaze of a man who’s been married for 30 years?” “How is that the look of a 30-year-married husband?” That’s what crossed my mind. Kinda like a cow in a barn, right? Kinda like a cow in a barn, right? I want to have that same look even after 30 years of marriage. Honestly, nowadays, all I feel is pure love. But usually, when you see couples who’ve been married 30 years, they don’t have that same look. So how do you do it? I’m really curious. What makes me really happy is when my wife asks me to do something for her. Because the fact that I can do something for her, that I can make her happy— that means a lot to me. Even that day we filmed the toothbrushing scene— honestly, because of all those memes of “angry brushing,” on a normal day I wouldn’t want to do it. But then she suddenly says she wants to teach me how to brush my teeth, film it, and use it on her show. And what I felt was, “Oh! My wife needs a video of me brushing my teeth right now.” “And I’m grateful I can do at least that for her.” That mental switch just flipped, and I was so thankful. Just the act of asking me to do something— I’m actually the type who expresses feelings a lot. So when I feel love, I say it right away, I say thank you, and give compliments often. I say thank you, and give compliments often. You both do it for each other? Yeah! Both of us. Giving lots of compliments—that’s so important. There are things about my wife, abilities I never knew about when we were dating. She has this endless potential, and I’m actually watching it come to life now. And as I see that, I feel like, “She’s really blooming right now.” Teamwork is key. It’s so important to see yourselves as one team— like I said earlier. Because if your wife is struggling or feels down, it ultimately affects your whole team. It affects you too, in the same way. You’re both going through that hardship together. But if, like you, Mr. We, you lift her up with praise, then the whole team rises. You rise with her too. That’s how I see it. Man, honestly— I’m really curious how I’ll be 30 years from now when I look back on this conversation with you. I might not even be around in 30 years (?), but you, Mr. We, I think you’ll be the one passing this on to younger folks someday. More than anything, after getting married, I’ve started to learn things about myself I didn’t know. After getting married and having my wife beside me, I found myself leaning on her in ways I never even leaned on my own parents. And in that realization, like you said earlier, I felt like, “Ah, we’ve become a team now.” We’re on the same boat now. And as we sail together— fighting inside that boat doesn’t help anyone. Because in the end, we’re still heading toward the same destination. But the problem is— some people don’t think they’re in the same boat. Even though they’re married, they believe they’re each on their own boat. So when a fight happens, what do you think happens? They end up drifting off in different directions. It hasn’t even been a year since we got married, but I already think a lot about having kids. Having a child means entering a whole new world. It’s a completely different life. What are your thoughts on that? When it comes to kids, I think what the wife wants is actually even more important in some ways. Especially in our country, it’s the wife who gets pregnant and gives birth. So naturally, her opinion matters more. Even though we’ll raise the child together, because of my physical limitations, I do feel some vague fears. What if I can’t physically help? But honestly, Mr. We— I think you’ll be an even better dad than most. I feel like I could give a lot of love. But what if the baby gets sick— and I can’t run while holding them? That kind of thing… The situation where a parent has to run with a sick child in their arms almost never happens. I have three kids and that’s never happened to me. Worrying about things that haven’t even happened yet—it’s not worth it. You’ve gotta cut those thoughts off, and focus on what you truly want right now, what really matters to you. Zoom in on that, and step across that threshold we talked about earlier. What you said earlier was really important— You said, “I’m ready to give love, to give it fully.” In the end, love is what matters most. The real problem is that people don’t prioritize it. Instead, they get caught up in all these other things— What should I leave behind for them? What should I provide? What neighborhood should we live in? What school should they go to? What kind of car should they ride in? People start worrying about all this stuff. But the most important thing is really this— Can I give this child enough love? The love I’ve received— isn’t passing that on the most important role of a parent? While preparing for this talk, I looked you up. And wow, just looking at your drama credits and awards— there are so many. You’ve already made such a solid career as an actor, you really don’t have to do anything more. But I saw that you’ve been writing for quite a while. And recently, as a novelist, your work was even selected as required reading at Oxford University, and you were invited to give a lecture. Selected as required reading and invited to lecture! But that’s not because I’m a great writer— it’s because the subject matter was about our “comfort women”— a painful part of our history. At Oxford, there’s a professor who teaches Korean language classes. She chose my novel as part of her curriculum. I started writing fiction— my first novel came out in 2009. So I’ve actually been writing novels for about 16 years now. So what made you suddenly start writing fiction? When I think back and ask myself why I started writing, I realized… Honestly, there’s really just one answer. Ah! I wrote it because I wanted to write. I just really wanted to write a novel. But then I wondered, “Can I actually do it?” And when I looked back at the habits I’d built up over time, and the way I’d lived my life overall, I thought, “Ah, maybe I should give it a try.” That’s where I leaned. Had you always liked writing before that? I think I’d been writing little by little almost every day. Letters, journals, just jotting things down. When you wrote — I’m curious what motivated you to write that one. I’m curious what motivated you to write that one. It was back in 1998, when I was newly married. I had just finished my military service, and I was watching TV at home when the news came on. There was a woman named Grandma Hoon, and she was returning to Korea from Cambodia after 55 years. They broadcasted her arrival live. She had been taken as a comfort woman, and watching that moment, I suddenly started imagining what her childhood must’ve been like. I thought, if she hadn’t been caught up in that historical tragedy— if she hadn’t been taken as a comfort woman— what kind of life might she have lived? Maybe she would’ve become a mother. Maybe she would’ve been loved by someone. Those were the kinds of thoughts I had. And then I thought, “I should try writing that as a novel.” That’s how it started. At the end of the novel, there’s a scene where the officer apologizes. Is that where that moment came from? Yeah, around that time I also visited the place where a group of the comfort women were living together. I did some volunteer work a few times, and I thought, “What is it that they truly want?” And I realized, “They probably want an apology and to be able to forgive.” But since no one is apologizing, even if they want to forgive, they’re not able to. So, even if only in my novel, I wanted them to receive that apology. Through the mouth of a Japanese officer, I wanted to create a moment of apology. Through this novel, I hoped that even a little bit of their pain could be comforted. That was the hope that led me to write it. Even if I’m not the best writer. So, the core message So, the core message So, the core message of this book, I think, is empathy. When we look at a tragedy, we tend to focus on the anger toward those who committed the violence. We see it mostly through that lens of rage. I do too. But what about the painful lives of the victims— the struggles and suffering they had to endure all the way until the end of their lives here in Korea? Have we ever really felt that deeply and empathized with them? When I shifted my perspective to try to understand and feel the pain of the victims more deeply, I could feel their sorrow on a whole new level. And if more people could empathize with their pain, then maybe it could become a huge wave— a wave that naturally leads to a sincere apology someday. That’s the kind of ripple I imagine. That’s the thought I carry. Honestly, when people think of Cha In-pyo and Shin Ae-ra as a couple, they think of all the volunteering and good deeds you do. People already know you for that. But when did you first start feeling like you wanted to help others? But when did you first start feeling like you wanted to help others? It’s a Christmas story. It was Christmas Eve, 1988. I’d been in the U.S. for about a year by then. I studied during the day, and at night— I worked at a private psychiatric hospital. I was a night-shift nursing assistant. They’d hand out these assignment slips telling us what to do. And the one task I hated the most was watching over patients in the psychiatric ward who were at risk of harming themselves. You had to follow them one-on-one, and just watch them—literally. You couldn’t take your eyes off them. Because you never knew when something might happen. For the full 8-hour shift, all I could do was follow them. Couldn’t do anything else. It was Christmas Eve, and out of my 21 Christmases, it was the most miserable one. He couldn’t even speak properly. So I just followed him around, and at some point, he finally fell asleep. I was sitting in a chair by the door, looking at the back of his head, dozing off myself. It must’ve been around 2 a.m. And I started daydreaming. Looking at the back of his head, I thought, “Wait, if Jesus came to Earth today, in 1988, where would He go?” And then it hit me—Jesus came into the world for the poorest, weakest people. He was born in a manger back then. He was born in a manger back then. And right then, in front of my eyes, was Edward, curled up, sleeping. And I thought, “It’s for someone like Edward that He would’ve come.” I just felt at that moment. And suddenly, it was like someone was hugging me from behind. I felt this overwhelming happiness. Like we talked about earlier, sometimes in the pursuit of happiness, the things we do naturally become acts of kindness. That’s what I think it was. That day is something I’ll never, ever forget. – Right? That’s what I’m saying.
That day is something I’ll never, ever forget. I can’t even remember what I did last Christmas, but I still remember that one so clearly. With our channel, Weracle, we come across so many people dealing with deep emotional pain. There really are a lot. They leave comments on our videos, send us messages and emails. But if it’s something I haven’t personally gone through, I feel like I’m in no position to give advice or even try to help lightly. But there are just so many people out there, especially young people these days, going through hard times. Would you mind offering a bit of advice for them? I mean, I’m not in any position or qualified to be giving advice, but— if I were going through a hard time right now, if I was struggling, I think I’d try my best to focus on the present. Because that’s the only thing I really can control. You have to figure out what you can and can’t change by worrying. And once you do that, you let go of the things you can’t control and focus all your energy on what you can. Just trying to live the present moment well— that’s probably one way to get through tough times, even just a little. That’s what I believe. And I really think that as humans, we’re meant to help each other. Honestly, if I hadn’t gotten injured, I probably wouldn’t have paid attention to disability, even now—11 years later. I wouldn’t have known much about it. I wouldn’t have known much about it. I really respect you, Park We. Sure, it’s meaningful to get awards at a glamorous ceremony after lots of hard work, but more than that— people like you who turn personal hardship into something that positively impacts others, who’ve been quietly doing that for a long time, that kind of courage— I admire that deeply. Thank you. Please, don’t ever change. Keep sharing God’s love with more people and inspiring them to live well too. That’s what I hope for you. Thank you. I really hope we can stay in touch. Absolutely, we will. (Joking)
If you ever get married again(?) Well, not that you need to— but if you ever send out another wedding invite, lol Next time, let’s do a dinner with both our wives. Sounds great. Yeah, it’d be nice to meet as couples, but I’d also love to meet you one-on-one. Really talk, share some deeper thoughts. I’m not great at giving advice, but anytime. We’re almost at the meeting spot now. Usually at the end, we ask people to say something to someone they love— A message for your wife, your family, your mom. Then today, Then today, to someone I love dearly— my little brother. His name was Cha Inseok. It’s been 12 years since he went to heaven. So I want to say something to my brother. Inseok, are you doing well? I’ve seen you in my dreams three, maybe four times. I wish I could see you more often. I believe you’re resting peacefully before God… I really do. I met your daughter recently. We had a meal together—she’s grown so much. It’s been 12 years, huh? But our love for you, our longing for you, hasn’t changed at all. And as time goes on, even the deepest sorrow becomes bearable— maybe that’s one of the escape hatches that God built into us humans. The world’s changed a lot. Now we have iPhones, and something called KakaoTalk. And beyond that, there’s even AI now. So much is changing, and I wish we could’ve lived in this world together. It would’ve been so good. But God loved you so much, He called you first. So we’ll live fully—even for the life you couldn’t finish— and meet again someday. We’re all waiting for that day in heaven. I love you. Man… I actually have a younger brother too. So hearing this… When I got injured, he stayed by my side for six months. This memory just hit me all of a sudden. Totally forgot we were filming for a second. So many of your stories really hit me deeply. I won’t forget today either. Me too. It was great finally meeting you, Park We. Carpe diem. Let’s seize the day. Let’s seize the day. One, two, three— A miracle for all of us.

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